The learning harness built the measurement honestly and then hill-climbed on it by hand. Four review rounds' worth of defects in that loop were defects of its shape, not its code. Read from GEPA's Algorithm 1 and 2 rather than from a summary, three things bear directly on ours: the acceptance gate is deliberately cheap and noisy, because the Pareto frontier -- not the gate -- is what protects against a bad accept; selection is stochastic and diversity-preserving, which is what stops the search collapsing onto one lineage; and the expensive full evaluation is spent only on candidates that already passed the cheap gate. Two consequences for us are honesty findings, not performance ones. Our acceptance rule reads the holdout every round, so repeated rounds overfit the test set -- the same leak class this project already measured once, one level up. And the proposer is handed a score where the published work hands it textual feedback from the evaluation trace, which our evaluator produces and then discards. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <[email protected]> Claude-Session: https://claude.ai/code/session_01T7XD7x5KonMdmGRkp63EQG
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Brief: the detector optimizer
Problem
learning-harness built the measurement layer honestly — a closed family taxonomy, a class-aware pair
scorer, per-family detector configurations, a split enforced by construction, verifier-gated reporting,
and a journal with attribution. What it did not build is a search. run_learning_round is a
hand-rolled hill-climber: one proposal, one minibatch, one holdout check, a threshold rule, accept or
revert. Every defect four review rounds found in it was a defect of that improvised loop rather than of
the measurement underneath it.
The maintainer's judgement, and the reason for this spec: the remaining work is not a sequence of patches to that loop. It is adopting an interface and an algorithm that already exist, are published, and are better than what we would arrive at by fixing ours one finding at a time.
What the current loop gets wrong, measured
Round zero on vibe-py, deepseek-v4-flash, K = 5, $0.69, 23/30 pair-correct:
| family | scorable | recall | silence | Youden | noise floor |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| injection | 20 | 0.75 | 0.90 | +0.65 | 11 |
| access_control | 3 | 1.00 | 1.00 | +1.00 | 3 |
| config_secrets | 3 | 1.00 | 1.00 | +1.00 | 1 |
| deserialization | 2 | 1.00 | 1.00 | +1.00 | 0 |
| output_encoding | 1 | 1.00 | 1.00 | +1.00 | 1 |
| path | 1 | 1.00 | 1.00 | +1.00 | 1 |
Four defects follow from the loop's shape, not from its bugs:
- The acceptance rule cannot discriminate.
decidecompares raw deltas: any regression on train or holdout rejects, a tie rejects. The measured floor says 11 of 20 injection pairs disagree with themselves across five runs, so a delta over a minibatch of 8 is mostly noise. The spec builtsign_testandreliable_changefor exactly this and the rule calls neither. - The holdout is an input to the decision.
decidereadsholdout_delta. Req 5.4 keeps the proposer blind to the holdout, and then the selector reads it every round. Repeated rounds selecting on holdout performance is search-time overfitting of the test set — the same leak class this project has already measured once, one level up. - Noise is fought with repetition instead of diversity. K = 5 spends five rollouts per pair per side estimating variance. The published alternative spends that budget on more candidates and lets a frontier keep whatever wins somewhere.
- The proposer is told a score, not what went wrong.
FailureFactscarries outcomes, run strings and counts. The single largest lever in the published work is textual feedback from the evaluation trace — and our evaluator produces exactly the right material (which finding landed on which line, whether it fell inside the labeled span, whether the fixed side leaked, which family was claimed) and then throws all of it away.
What others built
GEPA — Reflective Prompt Evolution (Agrawal et al., arXiv:2507.19457, ICLR 2026 oral). Algorithm 1, read from the paper rather than from a summary:
- Split
D_trainintoD_feedbackandD_pareto. Initialise the candidate poolP = [Φ]and score the seed on every instance ofD_pareto, giving a score matrixS[candidate][instance]. - Each iteration: select a candidate from the Pareto frontier; select a module round-robin; run it on a
minibatch drawn from
D_feedback; collect scores, traces and textual feedback via a feedback functionμ_f; have a reflection LM rewrite that module's prompt; re-run the mutated system on the same minibatch. - Accept if and only if the minibatch average improved. Only then is the candidate scored on all of
D_paretoand added to the pool with its parent recorded. - Return the candidate with the best average on
D_pareto.
Algorithm 2, the selection: for each instance take the best score any candidate achieved; keep the candidates that achieve it; drop strictly dominated ones; sample a survivor with probability proportional to the number of instances it leads on.
Three things about that are directly relevant to us. The acceptance gate is cheap and noisy on purpose — a single minibatch comparison — because the frontier, not the gate, is what protects against a bad accept: anything that wins on one instance is retained. Selection is stochastic and diversity-preserving, which is what stops the search collapsing onto one lineage. And the expensive full evaluation is spent only on candidates that already passed the cheap gate.
Reported: 93% on MATH with a DSPy ChainOfThought program against 67% unoptimised, +10% over MIPROv2
and +20% over GRPO with 35× fewer rollouts; on IFBench, optimal prompts after 678 rollouts against
GRPO's 24,000. Sample efficiency is the claim that matters for us, because our rollouts cost money.
DSPy's optimizer interface. MIPROv2 proposes instruction and demonstration candidates and searches
them with Bayesian optimisation (Optuna TPE), scoring on minibatches and running a full validation pass
on the incumbent every minibatch_full_eval_steps — an explicit two-fidelity design for a noisy metric.
dspy.GEPA takes metric, reflection_lm, a budget (auto / max_full_evals / max_metric_calls),
reflection_minibatch_size, candidate_selection_strategy (pareto | current_best) and
track_stats, and its metric returns Prediction(score, feedback) rather than a float.
The standalone gepa library (MIT) exposes gepa.optimize(seed_candidate, trainset, valset, task_lm, reflection_lm, max_metric_calls) over a GEPAAdapter protocol of three methods —
evaluate, make_reflective_dataset, propose_new_texts — with a seed candidate that is just a dict
of component name to text. That adapter shape is the interface we want whether or not we take the
dependency: it is the smallest surface that separates what a detector is from how it is searched.
What this spec proposes
Restate the detector as an optimisable program and put a published optimiser behind it.
- A detector is a candidate: a dict of named text components (
prompt,checklist,hard_negatives,counterexamples) plus its frozen non-text settings (tools, budgets). That is already whatFamilyConfigholds; it becomes the seed candidate. - The metric returns a score and a reason.
score_pair_familygains a feedback string built from what the evaluation already knows. This is the highest-value change in the spec and it is independent of which optimiser sits on top. D_paretois carved out of the train split. The holdout leaves the acceptance rule entirely and is scored once, for reporting, when the search is over. This is a requirements change to Req 9.5 and the most important honesty consequence of the redesign.- An adapter protocol (
evaluate,make_reflective_dataset,propose_new_texts) with two backends: our own implementation of Algorithms 1 and 2 by default, so the core install keepsdependencies = [], andgepabehind an optional extra so its improvements arrive for free. - The Pareto pool replaces the accept/revert tree.
Archivealready records per-pair winners; it becomes the frontier, and the journal's parent records become the ancestry GEPA needs.
Scope
In: the search over a family's text components, the feedback function, the candidate pool and its selection, the budget accounting, and the artifacts that make a run reproducible.
Out, and deliberately: the taxonomy, the classifier, the pair scorer's outcome rules, the verifier boundary, the write roots, redaction, the three gates. Those are the measurement, and a search whose objective is not trustworthy is worse than no search. Nothing here relaxes them — in particular the proposer stays blind to the holdout, verifier code and gold labels stay outside every write root, and no pattern or policy is written by a model.
Decisions for the maintainer
- Reimplement Algorithms 1 and 2, take
gepaas an extra, or both? Both is proposed: ours by default (zero-dependency, and the security properties are ours to own),gepabehind an extra for comparison. The cost is one adapter and one conformance test that both backends must pass. - Drop the holdout from the acceptance rule? Proposed yes, and it amends approved Req 9.5. The holdout becomes what its name says.
- K = 1 inside the search, K ≥ 3 only for published numbers? Proposed yes. That is roughly a 5× budget reclaim spent on more candidates, which is where the sample efficiency comes from.
- Does the reflection model differ from the detector model? The published work uses a stronger
reflector than the task model. We have
deepseek-v4-proconfigured as the judge; proposed to reuse it. - Is
access_controlstill the family we care most about? It has one train teacher. Until agent-vfc rows are reviewed above tiertitle, the optimiser cannot work on it, whatever its algorithm.
Open questions
- Does
geparun against an OpenAI-shaped base URL that is not OpenAI (our DeepSeek endpoint), and what does it pull in? Both must be checked before the extra is offered, under the no-undeclared-dependency rule. - Our "module" granularity: is a module a family, or a lever within a family? Round-robin over levers is the closer analogue, but the levers are not independent — a checklist edit and a prompt edit interact.
- The feedback function's failure mode is a reflection model that writes plausible prose about a trace it misread. What check makes a feedback string answerable rather than persuasive?
- GEPA's acceptance is a single noisy comparison. Our floor says a single comparison is close to a coin flip on this corpus. Does the frontier really absorb that at n ≈ 20 instances, or is our corpus simply too small for the algorithm's assumptions?
Sources: GEPA (arXiv:2507.19457) · DSPy GEPA overview · DSPy MIPROv2 · gepa-ai/gepa