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Brief: ir-consolidation, stop maintaining an IR we did not need, and adopt one we do

Status 2026-10-02: dormant. Brief only and unapproved. The subtraction it asks for still needs a measured recall comparison before the flat IR goes.

Status: brief only, unapproved.

Why now

"we should make sure our code base here doesn't explode. for example we have a custom IR. maybe vine (berkely) or another existing IR (rolf rolles had one) ... I know Ghidra has one we could steal"

Two different questions live inside that, and they have opposite answers. Keeping them apart is most of the value of this brief.

Question 1, the source IR we already replaced and never retired

semantic/ is 3,218 lines, 16% of the codebase: a hand-written IR (ir.py, cst.py) and a flat taint engine (taint.py), plus the overlay that runs them. model-grounded-detection measured that IR against Joern's CPG and the result was decisive, 2.2% entailment against 41.3%, which is why the CPG was adopted for the model layer. The flat IR was never removed, and still runs as a proposer in every scan.

So the outgrowth is not something we are about to add. It is something already carried.

Vine and P-Code do not help here. Both are binary IRs. Vine lifts executables (BitBlaze, UC Berkeley, GPL-2.0, last significant activity 2009), and P-Code lifts machine code. Our source languages are Python, PHP, JavaScript and Java, and the source IR we should adopt is the one we already have. The work is subtraction, not substitution:

  • Can the CPG serve the overlay's job at equal or better recall?
  • What does deleting semantic/'s IR and taint cost, measured on the pair corpus and both repositories?
  • What has to stay? obligations/ reads the same facts and is a different analysis.

A candidate ~1,000-line deletion with a number attached, which is the only kind worth doing.

Question 2, the abstraction we are missing, where an existing IR is exactly right

c/memory has produced zero true positives and three distinct classes of false one. The reason is structural and now stated in the report (Req 5.6): it models unbounded string CALLS, while real C overflows are arithmetic (an index, a pointer offset, a memcpy whose size is computed). Every one of libpng's is, and its library code never calls a modelled string API at all.

"Can this expression exceed this allocation" is a value question, not a reachability one. Rolf Rolles' GhidraPAL carries a three-valued-logic abstract interpreter over Ghidra P-Code, with each bit definite 0, definite 1, or unknown, and with abstract transformers for INT_ADD, INT_MULT, INT_AND, the comparisons, validated against concrete execution in its own tests. That is precisely the shape of analysis the C family lacks, and it exists.

The candidates, and why they are not equivalent

language IR analyses licence state
angr Python 3 (+ Rust) VEX, lifting CFG recovery, data-dependency, value-set analysis, symbolic execution BSD-2-Clause actively maintained, ~14.8k commits
GhidraPAL Java Ghidra P-Code three-valued-logic abstract interpreter, transformers validated against concrete runs see repo research code, small
Vine OCaml/C++ own IL BitBlaze static analysis GPL-2.0 dormant since 2009

angr is the strongest candidate and Vine is not one. Three things decide it:

  • It is Python. This codebase is Python with dependencies = [] in the core, and every heavyweight capability so far has been reached across a subprocess boundary rather than imported. angr fits that pattern as an extra, the way harnessx and the tree-sitter grammars already do.
  • Value-set analysis is the abstraction we are missing, by name. "Can this index exceed this allocation" is a VSA question, and VSA is abstract interpretation rather than SMT -- which is the choice model-grounded-detection already made and gave its reasons for.
  • BSD-2-Clause, against Vine's GPL-2.0. This project has a standing rule about never vendoring code without a stated licence, and a GPL dependency is a decision about the whole tool rather than about one analysis.

GhidraPAL stays interesting for a different reason: it is a worked example of the domain, not a platform. Its TVL bit-vector and its validated transformers for INT_ADD, INT_MULT and the comparisons are the thing to read before writing any abstract domain here, whether the platform underneath is angr or Ghidra.

It is also the honest answer to a decision this project already took. model-grounded-detection chose abstract interpretation over SMT, and chose to build the model from code because execution cannot be assumed. A bit-level abstract interpreter over P-Code is still abstract interpretation and still static. What changes is the artifact: it needs a built library rather than its source.

What this brief must decide

  1. Whether the source-IR subtraction is safe, measured rather than assumed.
  2. Whether the C arithmetic class is worth a second pipeline at all, or whether c/memory stays scoped to string misuse and says so, which is where task 2.16 left it, deliberately.
  3. If it is worth it: angr first, on language, licence and the fact that value-set analysis is the named abstraction -- with GhidraPAL read as the worked example of a bit-precise domain rather than as a platform. Vine is dormant since 2009 and is not a candidate.
  4. What a second pipeline costs in the one currency this project has been strict about, the number of things that can silently return nothing rather than lines. This session found three separate quiet failures in one PHP scan. A binary pipeline adds a build step, a lifter, and a domain, each of which can produce an empty result that looks like a clean one.

The constraint that governs it

Nothing here may grow the codebase without a measurement that justifies it, and the module audit (benchmarks/measurements/2026-09-08-module-audit.json, currently 97 modules with no orphans) is the instrument. A brief that ends in "adopt P-Code" and 3,000 new lines while semantic/ still carries 3,218 has made the problem worse, not better. Question 1 should land before Question 2 starts.